Significant overlap with CategoryProgrammerUtils? Maybe move some items from there to here?
– AlexSchroeder 2012-08-28 15:35 UTC
Yes, CategoryProgrammerUtils already has a long section, but (again) I was more comfortable creating new content than disturbing someone else’s work.
– roland.walker 2012-08-28 15:57 UTC
Yeah, but on the other hand we get a lot of criticism that the wiki needs better organization, so this is my gentle prodding in the right direction. ;)
– AlexSchroeder 2012-08-29 08:44 UTC
Forget that noise – if it isn’t a “work-in-progress” then it isn’t a Wiki.
– roland.walker 2012-08-29 12:26 UTC
But my suggestion — for all of this stuff that you are doing, is to do the following instead:
If attempts to organize within the existing category structure present significant obstacles and indicate that a real REorganization would be in order, then we can discuss what that reorg should be. Then, after agreement, we can move to implement the reorg.
– DrewAdams 2012-08-29 14:20 UTC
This is true. At the same time, I hesitate to just kill the energy of somebody that is effectively volunteering to organize a segment of the wiki.
I am also reminded of old discussions on Meatball Wiki, MeatBall:ForestFire (about newcomers making massive changes) and MeatBall:ColdBlanket (about conservative and cautious people killing enthusiasm).
– AlexSchroeder 2012-08-29 20:12 UTC
I agree. I don’t want to kill the enthusiasm. But I’d sooner it be redirected to interaction (discussion first) and to action on ordinary pages — as a way to start. Basic restructuring is perhaps a place where a little more conservatism is in order.
That’s why we generally make it more difficult to change the meta level (e.g. the structure/rules of the game). It takes a lot more to amend the US Constitution than it does to pass a new law, for example.
– DrewAdams 2012-08-29 20:56 UTC